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...why it's always only John who gets promoted.

"General" Sheppard is a frequent occurrence in SGA future-fics but I have yet to come upon a story in which Rodney has managed to become "Professor" McKay.

I know, whereas a promotion to "General" doesn't need any extra education/training/schooling outside of your job because it's a designated step on the path of a military career which you may be able to reach if you're good enough, one has to work hard in addition to a day job to earn the title of "Professor". You don't become a professor just because you are a Doctor and very, very good in your field. You have to work actively on earning the title of "Professor" - time consuming, I would guess.

But does actually nobody think that Rodney would actually strive to achieve this after the immediate threats in Pegasus have slowed down somewhat?

Or is there a different reason which I'm not seeing?

Anyway, "Professor" McKay doesn't seem to be in Rodney's future (except perhaps for total AUs).

ETA: Thanks to Istia and Clavally I'm now properly informed why it would not make sense for Rodney to want to be a professor. :-)

Who said being in fandom isn't educational? *ggg*

Date: 2013-02-11 07:17 am (UTC)
istia: rodney mckay with a focus on his hands, text "magic" (sga | rodney magic)
From: [personal profile] istia
I don't know if it's different in the US, but in Canada, "Professor" is simply a courtesy title for anyone who teaches at a university. There's no other distinction or status and it's not used outside universities. University teachers are small-p "professors", from the 1st-year newbies to ones who've had tenure for 30 years and have won a bunch of prestigious awards, etc. If they quit teaching, they're no longer a professor, so they no longer get called Professor.

My personal canon for Rodney is that being a professor is the last thing he wants. *g* But if he did want it, he could likely get a job at any university he wanted in the blink of an eye! And, presto, he'd be a prof. :)

Date: 2013-02-11 08:50 am (UTC)
istia: focus on canadian flag on rodney mckay's uniform (sga | rodney flag)
From: [personal profile] istia
Right, "Doctor" is the highest academic title he can achieve.

As a Canadian, he could conceivably at some point receive a decoration that recognises the value of his achievements, like the Order of Merit or the Order of Canada. In that case, he'd be able to append letters to the end of his name: Dr Rodney McKay, OM, CM. Might need a fair bit of declassification before his accomplishments are fully known, though.

I suspect he wouldn't mind preening a little over those additions to his name, heh.
Edited Date: 2013-02-11 08:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-11 07:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clavally
I agree with the previous comment. "Professor" is a job title you only get from a university, so it wouldn't make any sense for him to have it. Even then, it's been my experience that most professors prefer being addressed as "doctor" anyway.

Date: 2013-02-11 08:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clavally
Because "doctor" is the academic degree and "professor" would only mean he's teaching at an university and nothing else, right?

Yes, exactly. Only people with doctorates can be professors, at least in the US, but professors are only employed at universities and it usually means their valuable time for research is being used up on administrative stuff and teaching.

The only thing above getting a doctorate in something is getting a prestigious award like the Nobel.

Date: 2013-02-11 08:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clavally
And now I'm going to completely confuse you. My brother-in-law has a doctorate in cellular biology and works at a university, but he's not a professor. He does, however, work in the lab of a professor as a researcher. :p

In essence, though, your last sentence was right. In terms of titles, "doctor" is the pinnacle for Rodney.

Date: 2013-02-11 08:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clavally
Yes! This doesn't happen at smaller universities. He works for a large university that has the funding to employ people who's sole purpose is research. He often laments having to work on someone else's research instead of having his own lab.

Date: 2013-02-11 09:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clavally

Very true, having Rodney as a boss would surely suck!

Date: 2013-02-11 03:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate
Because "doctor" is the academic degree and "professor" would only mean he's teaching at an university and nothing else, right?

You know, in 99% of cases, I would say yes, but I have to say that at MIT (where I'm currently working), it's actually a big deal to be called "professor" and the faculty gets very upset if you call them "doctor" and not "professor." That is really strange to me, as there are a lot of faculty at other places that aren't PhDs, so obviously it's "doctor" that is the more prestigious title. But MIT is weird (big surprise there).

ETA: And actually [personal profile] clavally has hit upon this phenomenon up there - basically, at MIT, everyone does research, so everyone's a doctor. Even the people who do grunt work (post-docs) are doctors. But only select people actually get to teach. Thus why the "professor" is the coveted title in this case. But at any rate, one Rodney probably wouldn't want, regardless (except in [personal profile] synecdochic's brilliant Freedom and fics like it).
Edited Date: 2013-02-11 03:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-11 01:40 pm (UTC)
em_kellesvig: McKay with Canadian flag (SGAMcKayFlag)
From: [personal profile] em_kellesvig
As CSO of Atlantis, McKay's as high as he can get without a Nobel. Once declassification hits, every one of his peers will know just how high on the ladder he is and that Nobel won't be long in coming. But, as [personal profile] istia said, a couple of medals from Canada would be icing on the cake.

Date: 2013-02-11 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] helenkacan
The only promotion that Rodney might get - after his Nobel(s), naturally - might be when the Stargate project is declassified and he were to, say, head up some international physics think tank. So, he'd be "Director" of it.

Though I do like the sound of him getting an Order of Canada. I can just imagine the induction ceremony presided by the Governor General (with John elbowing him and reminding him to "play nice").


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